THE OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE BOYS ORGANIZATION

Men's Stories from Florida School for Boys (Dozier) in Marianna, FL
OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE BOYS ORGANIZATION

NATHANIEL DOWLING

My name is Nathaniel Dowling. I am 68 years old. I went FSB in Mariana November of 1958, and I was 15 years old, I stayed there untill April of 1959, and was transfered to Okeechoobee from April to October of 1959. I got out in 1959. The reason I went to FSB  is because I was with a man who robbed a man, and the juvenile court sent  me to FSB. The court wanted to send me to prison, but I was too young.  While at FSB, I worked on the maitenance crew. The job was consisted of  keeping the school property clean. While working on the clean up crew, I  witnessed children being flogged at a place called the White House, where they flogg you when you do something wrong. I have seen children taken out of my cottage and taken to the White House. When the children come back,  they have lots of blood on their underwear. I remember a child ran away       and he was in my cottage. He stayed away for 3 days untill the officers caught him. When they did he told me the officers kicked him, punched him in his mouth, hit him upside his head, and took him to the the White House, where they flogged him and gave him 60 licks. The child that ran       away have what you called a slab, meaning a piece of meat off his butt.  Right to this day, it is still there. How I know? Me and him talk everyday about how we were treated at FSB. Me myself, I was blessed. I only got       flogged 1 time. The man that ran the maitenance crew said that I was undressing the officer's wife by looking at her. They called it reckless eyeballing, I got 50 licks for it. When i got out of FSB, I had no respect  for the law. The people at FSB made a mean pearson out of me. I went to prison 2 times involved with police officers, 1 of the charges was resisting arrest, and battery on a police officer. I tell my grandchildren how it was at FSB and they say, "They were mean to you grandaddy". and I  told my grand kids, " Not olny me, all of the little children were there ". I hope that no other child has to go through what i went through.
Nate  Dowling
A White House Boy from Bradenton,Fl
 
FRANK MARX



My story is so much like all of the rest of the White House Boys. It all starts out with, as in most cases, a broken home.

We lived, for a short time, in Montana with my mom and birth father. One day early in the afternoon my mom put me, my brother and sister, ages 4, 2 1/2 and 1 1/2, out in the yard to play and went next door to the neighbor’s house (E. Kindsvogel) to go do whatever. I vaguely remember hearing kids playing down the street so I opened the gate to go play with them. My brother, Johnny, age 2 1/2, followed me. My baby sister, Mary Anna, age 1 1/2, came out of the gate but didn’t follow us. She crossed the street and went to where there was a large drainage ditch. She fell in and drowned. Some 4 hours passed before mom noticed us all missing and the search began. By then Mary Anna was washed several miles down the river.

My mother kept the battered, bloody clothes they cut off of my sister and for years, when she was drinking, would drag them out and cry and tell me “It’s all your fault. You murdered your baby sister.” I had constant reminders. I sat and heard her tell the story “Frankie opened the gate and let his sister fall in the water and drown”. I remember the looks from my aunts, uncles and family friends, accusing looks. How many times did I wish it were me, wished I could trade places with the blonde, blue eyed little sister I murdered.

At the funeral I was made to stand in front of the casket and stare at her. I remember being told “You better not move boy.” It wasn’t until, with the help of my wife, I put that to rest.

My parents divorced and we moved back to Sarasota, Florida without my birth father. I now had a new mean, alcoholic stepfather (Kindsvogel). Emil was a hard working man who worked me like a man at ages 6 - 10. He made me help him every spare moment with the work he did as a maintenance man for a mobile home park. He put blocks on the gas and brake petals so I could drive the truck to pick up the trash and lawn cuttings. If you hurt yourself, there was no doctor. If you needed stitches, he put you up on the kitchen table, took the whiskey flask out of his back pocket, poured some in the wound and on a needle and thread and sewed you up. “You better not move boy.” I have heard that statement all of my life.

After several years of abuse at his hands, the drinking by both him and my mom and the terrible fights, they divorced. We lived alone for a few years. At age 12, we moved to Ft. Myers. My brother, Johnny, and I hated it. We left all of our friends and school behind to move to a new town at 14 1/2.

One weekend I had gone to Sarasota for the weekend on an old motorcycle to see my best friend, Punkin. He had been my best friend since 1st grade and remained so until his passing from liver cancer. I was involved in a head on crash. A man in a V.W. van had a heart attack and hit me head on and knocked me back 150 feet and ran over me again. I suffered a broken leg, broken arm, broken collar bone, broke 3 places in my back, had pins put in my knee and left elbow. I also had a metal plate put in on the left side of my face and head and my left arm would only open 70%. I spent 16 months in the hospital. My mother came 1 time to see me after about 7 months. One of my aunts took me home with her and charged my accident attorney $100.00 per week to care for me, which was legal rape in 1957.

After my recovery, I was sent back to Ft. Myers to live with my mom and 2nd stepfather. They had already started their own family. I had 1 younger brother at that time. My stepfather was a gentle man but mom’s fondness of alcohol and flirting was a constant problem, along with trying to make him reform 2 teenage boys who already had a chip on their shoulder.

At 16, I fell in with a crowd of misfits. We had bad grades in school, couldn’t read (I am dyslexic with ADHD) and teachers would pass you to get rid of you and made fun of you in class. My mother never asked or helped with homework, didn’t care about my grades and didn’t care that I couldn’t read. Her new family was more important, so with the misfits I went. We were having S. Ft. Myers versus N. Ft. Myers gang wars. Gangs in those days had BB guns, unlike gangs today. We were on top of a shopping center shooting BB’s at each other when the cops came. We hurriedly made up a story which I stuck to while the rest blamed it all on me and I’m the only one who ended up on court.

In court my mother told the judge I was an unruly child who was constantly in trouble and she could not handle me. I had never been in trouble. End result, I was sent to Marianna for 8 1/2 months during which time I was taken down to the White House 3 times. Each time I was beat into unconscious. On one occasion, Tidewell grabbed my left arm and twisted it so hard the pins popped out of the skin and I was taken to the infirmary and the “witch doctor” pulled it out with pliers. They had my medical records on file so they were aware of my injuries.

My first trip to the White House I was told to grab the rails and “You better not move boy”. I got 118 licks before I passed out and do not know the total. All because a young boy who had trouble walking almost fell in the lunch march and I grabbed his arm to steady him. I broke the rules. 18 stitches later I woke up in the boy’s hospital.

My second trip to the White House. I was assigned to the mechanic and body shop. A state car came in and in the front seat was a pack of cigarettes. I did not touch them. I went to tell the man over the shop, his name I can’t recall, so he would come and get them. When we went back to the car, they were gone. I was accused of stealing them and the end result was the White House and the words “You better not move boy”. I got over 100 licks before I passed out.

My third trip to the White House. It was visitation day and people were all over the place and someone stole a camera out of a visitor’s car. I, to this day, don’t know why I was blamed but to the White House I was sent again. “You better not move boy.” Over 100 licks again because I wouldn’t cry. The men had bets to see how many lashes to draw blood, how many to make him cry out, how many until he moves, how many until he passes out and so the game begins. They later found out who stole the camera.

I know of 1 young boy out of our cottage, we called him Mackey, that was taken in the middle of the night and never returned. We were told that his parents came and got him. We knew that was a lie because he was an orphan. There was another boy who was in the body shop with me that was caught smoking. He also was taken to the White House and we never saw him again.

So many, so sad, so forgotten. Thank you White House Boys Organization for all you are trying to do for those of us gone, murdered, lost and forgotten.

Frank (Kindsvogel) Marx 

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MIKE SAPP

 I remember Dr. Curry, his favorite statement was, "time will tell Michael, time will tell."I have a picture of me standing in front of Pierce Cottage,
the one up on the hill, in 1962. Dr. Curry had me transfered there because I stole the Superintendent's car and wrecked it while I was at Okeechobee Boys School. Dr. Curry used to always show up at shower time and stand
where he could watch us take showers. There was a big glass window he could look into the shower through.

I remember the scrape as Mr. Hatton would swing the paddle and it would hit the ceiling and I knew how to bite down and hold on. I knew whatever
happened I could not turn loose of the bed. I went down three times in the one year I was there. I had my pants picked out of the wounds in my butt, I even remember the smell as the rotted area would heal. I am so sorry I've missed all of this but I've been writing a book titled The Long Down and Up which was completed prior to me finding out about the White House Boys. But I had already told in the book about the white house. I was thinking at the time I wrote the story that I was the only one who remembered. Please let
me help if there's anyway possible. I was one of the ones that learned to hate while at Marianna and immediately turned to crime the day I got out of Marianna. I ended up during the next fourteen years in prison. That's what my book is about, life in and after prison. Thank you for founding this
worthy cause. I've enclosed a brief synopsis of my life after being a slave of the state for almost sixteen years. Enclosed is an excerpt about the
White House from by book The Long Down and Up Mike Sapp (Brother in Law)

I guess I was about twelve years old when I ran away the 1st time. I just jumped on a freight train and went to sleep. When the train stopped, I got
off. I ran away several times before my mother, who was now living in Ft Parker, replies to a court request that she will now let me live with her.
She has a house on Metzger Road and she is married.

So I move to Ft. Parker and immediately start running wild. Mom works as a waitress at Southland Cafeteria on US1. So we don't see much of each other.It don't take me long to get into trouble with my new found freedom. I'm caught shop lifting. I think my Mom realizes right along here that she can't handle me.

So the judge sends me to Central State Boys School I'm only at the school about three months when one day I rode into town with staff to pick up the mail. He left the keys in the car and as soon as he was out of sight I fired that mother up and took off. I was barreling East bound and wham, out of nowhere a St. Lucia County Sheriff car intercepts me, whips around and the chase was on.  Even at the early age of thirteen years old I wanted to go down fighting.

I lost control on a sharp curve, ran off the road and slammed into the windshield, cutting my forehead severely. But I'm still game enough to
climb out of the car, blood pouring down my face, and try to run towards the woods. Lonnie scooped me up like a rag doll and drove me to the Ft.
Parker Memorial Hospital. I returned to to the County Jail, after being stitched up, and held in jail until I could be transferred to Florida School for Boys at Northwest State . All the little bad asses were here. I was in reform school for a total of eighteen months. I was released in early 1962.



Mike Sapp.
Ft. Pierce, Fl
 
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